1 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:07,349 [Music] 2 00:00:11,830 --> 00:00:08,480 exploring 3 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:11,840 the bizarre bizarre your e-ticket ride 4 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:14,559 into the world of the paranormal 5 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:17,199 strap yourself in as we traverse the 6 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:18,080 universe 7 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:21,920 exploring the unexplained ufos 8 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:26,160 ghosts lost world cryptozoology 9 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:30,080 as well as other dimensions it's time to 10 00:00:37,990 --> 00:00:36,630 now your electrifying hosts of exploring 11 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:38,000 the bazaar 12 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:44,879 timothy beckley and tim schwartz 13 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:47,600 oh it's really cold out here in the 14 00:00:51,029 --> 00:00:48,399 woods 15 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:51,039 i'm sure glad i wore my uh bernie 16 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:53,039 sanders mittens tonight 17 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:55,280 but i tell you it's not the best time of 18 00:01:01,029 --> 00:00:58,000 the year for a siding i wouldn't think 19 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:01,039 ah tim jimmy you never know just just 20 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:02,960 get a little closer to the fire 21 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:05,920 i understand ted phillips would come out 22 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:07,680 here regardless of the time of the year 23 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,640 or the weather 24 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:11,040 these marley woods spook lights act 25 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:12,799 pretty much on their own they're 26 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:16,320 pretty independent bunch of lights 27 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:19,920 look i think i see a couple of them now 28 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:22,240 they seem to be larger and brighter than 29 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,960 the ones reported previously 30 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:27,119 but i i think tim our guest tonight will 31 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:29,360 have some amazing new revelations for us 32 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:30,240 on 33 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:39,510 well well tim after all it is the 34 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:43,040 show me state so let's put out the 35 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:45,520 bonfire so the lights won't think we're 36 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:46,799 signaling to them 37 00:01:50,230 --> 00:01:48,720 after all we don't know really what 38 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:50,240 their intentions 39 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:53,439 are do we well just be on the safe side 40 00:01:57,030 --> 00:01:54,000 i say we 41 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,040 get back to the kcra studio in vegas 42 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:59,759 have a cup of something or other to warm 43 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:00,479 us up 44 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:02,560 and set about asking thomas some 45 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:04,880 pertinent questions about the 46 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,160 current situation out here 47 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:10,800 uh sounds pretty good to me not certain 48 00:02:14,470 --> 00:02:12,080 what you mean by 49 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:14,480 uh the the something to drink but i'll 50 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:16,480 go along uh with it i'm sure you'll come 51 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:17,680 up with something rather 52 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,120 uh tasty uh and i i guess 53 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:23,520 we'll find out pretty soon what's going 54 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:24,239 on 55 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:33,430 all right i do have something uh tasty 56 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:34,720 here tim let me uh 57 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:38,319 let me pour you a glass of it ah 58 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:47,509 going i would i would say well cheers 59 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,840 yeah cheers to you and to tina and to 60 00:02:55,750 --> 00:02:51,840 our guests tonight and to all 61 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:55,760 our listeners on kcorradio.com 62 00:03:02,550 --> 00:02:58,879 and on youtube and stitcher and 63 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,560 itunes and iheart and everywhere out 64 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:04,800 there that you're listening in fact 65 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:06,640 uh why don't you tell us how you're 66 00:03:10,869 --> 00:03:07,840 listening to this 67 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:10,879 program you can drop us a line at 68 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:16,319 mr ufo eight at hotmail.com mruf08 the 69 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,360 number eight at 70 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:19,680 hotmail.com and that's me tim beckley 71 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,400 and uh 72 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:22,800 love to hear uh from you and we'll even 73 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:24,319 send you a free mag 74 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:27,760 free magazine uh speaking of free 75 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:30,799 magazines well these are not free but uh 76 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:33,360 we're currently working on two books one 77 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,000 of which 78 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:37,680 will go to uh amazon and be up there in 79 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:38,879 a couple of 80 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:41,680 days or at least over the weekend alien 81 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:42,640 lives matter 82 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:46,799 okay to be 83 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,239 gray 600 pages of the most 84 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:53,120 fascinating material that you will ever 85 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:53,439 come 86 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:56,560 across i think that sincerely and i mean 87 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:57,840 this 88 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:00,879 of the most 89 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:02,959 important books that we've ever 90 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:04,159 published uh 91 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:07,680 it shows that humans have 92 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:10,959 actually been responsible for attacking 93 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:14,000 ets and ultra-terrestrials and bigfoot 94 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:16,479 and all kinds of other creatures just as 95 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:17,040 much 96 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:20,239 as we accuse them and then the second 97 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:20,880 part of the 98 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:24,000 the book is uh about the 99 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,479 the afro-american or black ufo 100 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:28,720 experience there it seems to be a 101 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:31,440 a belief among many many people in the 102 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:32,639 field that uh 103 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:34,639 afro-americans do not have the same 104 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:36,160 interest in ufos that 105 00:04:43,749 --> 00:04:40,000 uh other races do a total fallacy total 106 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:43,759 fallacy um and uh we have a 107 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:46,479 a lot of material in there uh which will 108 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:47,600 uh 109 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:50,160 go into this in depth that's a it's a 110 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:51,759 very important book like i say it's 111 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:52,240 about 112 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:55,600 uh 600 pages it'll be up on amazon very 113 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,320 shortly 114 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:58,720 and then the one that you are working on 115 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:00,400 is solved 116 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:03,600 mysteries of time space and ufos which 117 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:04,160 is a 118 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:08,080 rather unique book because it takes the 119 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:08,880 subject from 120 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:11,919 a slightly different approach this would 121 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:12,720 be 122 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:15,199 a book that was if you want to say 123 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,120 channeled you can 124 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:20,000 but the information comes telepathically 125 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:20,560 from 126 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:24,160 a female spirit known as a a 127 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,440 dankin d-a-n-k-i-n 128 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:29,600 yeah anakin or something like that i'm 129 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:31,039 not quite sure how it would sound 130 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,240 pronounced we'll learn how to uh to 131 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:36,800 to pronounce it quickly enough but it 132 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:37,440 it's a 133 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:40,720 book that uh comes to us from uh the 134 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:44,240 tibetan and buddhist culture and it has 135 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:45,039 a lot 136 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:47,120 really great information on it the book 137 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:48,880 has been around for a while 138 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,800 it's been out of print for many many 139 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,400 years i remember 140 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:55,039 uh back when i started selling books as 141 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:56,400 a teenager 142 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,240 this book intrigued people and 143 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:03,120 we sold many many copies and now we're 144 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:03,919 going to 145 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,400 re-issue it it's a fascinating book with 146 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,160 a lot of good uh artwork 147 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:10,160 and that will be a little bit further 148 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:11,759 down the road probably into 149 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:15,120 february and tim is working on that 150 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:17,039 and the last last announcement 151 00:06:21,830 --> 00:06:18,400 announcement we do have 152 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:21,840 a new uh youtube and podcast 153 00:06:28,469 --> 00:06:24,880 uh webmaster if that's the right word 154 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:28,479 uh in michelle and we've put up a couple 155 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:28,960 of the 156 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,000 the videos that she's worked on uh 157 00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:35,039 episodes of this 158 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,759 program it's under mr ufo's secret files 159 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:38,880 on youtube 160 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,120 we're months behind and it's going to 161 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:43,440 take us a while to catch up but she's 162 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,800 uh learned pretty quickly how to 163 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,960 do a excellent job on this and i want to 164 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:50,720 thank you michelle 165 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:53,440 doing a fantastic job fantastic job in 166 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:54,639 indeed indeed 167 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,440 so anyway it is a time to get on with 168 00:07:01,350 --> 00:06:59,199 our 169 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,360 program this evening so why don't you 170 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:03,120 tell us tim who we're going to be 171 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,000 speaking to 172 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,560 because this is a one of my favorite 173 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:08,800 guests he's only been on once before 174 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,440 but he has some very very valuable 175 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:13,280 information to share 176 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:16,479 about a mutual friend who has passed 177 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,199 away 178 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:19,280 but who was one of the most credible 179 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:21,759 top-notch researchers 180 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,039 in ufology an associate of dr heineck 181 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:27,360 and was responsible for investigating 182 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:28,880 over 400 183 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:30,720 landing trace cases why don't you give 184 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:31,919 us a little bit of 185 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:35,440 uh info on on this tip sure well our 186 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:37,360 guest tonight is 187 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:39,360 his a return visit to exploring the 188 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:40,560 bazaar and always 189 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:43,919 happy to have thomas ferrario now thomas 190 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:46,080 has worked as a dive master machinist 191 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:46,400 and 192 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:48,720 electrical engineer on projects in the 193 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:49,680 united states 194 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:51,599 china and bermuda he's been an 195 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:53,960 independent ufo researcher since 196 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:56,879 1969 to 1998 197 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:59,840 at which point walt andrus founder of 198 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:00,479 mufon 199 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:02,400 asked him to become a section director 200 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,599 for mufon 201 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:05,520 later he would go on to uh to be 202 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:07,280 assistant state director for the 203 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:08,720 missouri mufon 204 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:11,199 and he then co-founded the mufon dive 205 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:13,120 team so now ferrari 206 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:14,960 then joined ted phillips as his 207 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:18,400 assistant in 2006 and later became part 208 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:18,720 of 209 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:22,800 ted's siu team he assisted ted phillips 210 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:26,080 on his marly woods project and his tetra 211 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:26,720 mountain 212 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:29,840 moonshaft project so now hopefully uh 213 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:32,880 thomas is going to reveal some amazing 214 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:36,719 never before heard form 215 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:39,360 before i guess details concerning the 216 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:40,240 marley woods 217 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:44,000 investigation so ted or thomas i'm sorry 218 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:46,959 charlene ted here tom thank you very 219 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:48,720 much for being with us on exploring the 220 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:49,920 bazaar 221 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:53,279 all right all right sent back to him 222 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:55,120 all right set back tim and let me take 223 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:56,720 over here for a few minutes 224 00:09:01,190 --> 00:09:00,320 uh okay um now i think uh we should 225 00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:01,200 introduce the 226 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,399 the subject uh well 227 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,640 first of all tell us how did you meet at 228 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:08,560 ted phillips what was the 229 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,240 the beginning of your relationship with 230 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:12,399 him he certainly like i pointed out is 231 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:13,920 one of the most credible 232 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:17,120 uh ufo investigators in the the field i 233 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:18,880 know he got started 234 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:21,360 and he met dr heineck down in socorro uh 235 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:22,640 new mexico 236 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:25,680 uh at the time of the ilani zamor 237 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:28,800 zamora sighting and landing and 238 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:31,600 observation of two little uh men and 239 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:33,200 symbol outside of the craft 240 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,720 how did you first meet up with uh ted 241 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:38,880 okay well it's good to be with you again 242 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,399 tim and thank you 243 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:42,399 thank you i just must say in passing 244 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:43,839 it's it's i do feel 245 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:46,560 ted is with us again tonight because the 246 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:47,680 20th of this 247 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:51,200 month was ted's birthday and uh 248 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:54,480 so that came pretty hard to myself and 249 00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:57,120 to ginger his wife this year especially 250 00:10:01,430 --> 00:09:59,040 the first anniversary 251 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:01,440 and of course you know ted was born on 252 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:03,600 march the 10th 253 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:07,120 and uh in 254 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:10,160 january 20th 1942 and it really 255 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:13,200 excuse me hit us hard but anyway i met 256 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,760 up with ted at a mufon conference i was 257 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:17,360 assistant state director to bruce 258 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:17,920 whitaman 259 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:20,480 and st louis and i always respected 260 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:22,399 ted's work so much and 261 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:26,000 i put in my two bits one day i i'm 262 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:29,360 electrician by trade and uh 263 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:32,399 i offered my services to ted and not 264 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:34,000 thinking for a moment he would pick me 265 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:34,959 up on it and 266 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:37,279 he said well let's see what you got tom 267 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:38,240 and he 268 00:10:41,350 --> 00:10:40,640 invited me out to work with him and that 269 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:41,360 began 270 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:44,160 the long relationship with ted and i 271 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,519 must say i'm so honored to be a part of 272 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:49,920 what he started and um 273 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:52,880 you know he was alan heineck's protege 274 00:10:56,069 --> 00:10:53,760 and 275 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:56,079 i met so many wonderful people with 276 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:56,959 through ted 277 00:11:03,190 --> 00:10:59,839 in the field and um you know i must say 278 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:03,200 stan freeman respected ted so much 279 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:06,800 and ted knew uh things that 280 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:08,800 stanton really envied because of his 281 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:10,720 work with heinek and 282 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:12,640 stanton always beat up on ted and he 283 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:14,399 always grabbed me and he said tom make 284 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:15,920 sure ted writes his book 285 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:19,440 and ted and never got to write his book 286 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:22,880 and we're working on that and so i feel 287 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:24,720 it's my obligation to get out 288 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:27,279 a lot of ted's work here and a lot of 289 00:11:30,710 --> 00:11:28,000 facts that 290 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:30,720 aren't known that uh through his work 291 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:32,399 with alan 292 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:34,480 and then basically brought me into 293 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:35,600 marley woods 294 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:38,880 and that's how i got involved 295 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:41,839 well now just one last thing about ted 296 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:42,560 uh his 297 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:46,000 uh he i guess he's best known for his uh 298 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:49,040 investigation like i pointed out of the 299 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:51,600 uh ufo uh trace cases where objects 300 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:52,399 would land and 301 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:53,839 then he would go out and collect the 302 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:55,920 soil samples and have them uh 303 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,560 analyze and so forth that i know one of 304 00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:00,320 the cases that he was involved with has 305 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:01,839 been on the history channel 306 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:05,680 uh is it at delphi missouri 307 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:09,600 delfos yeah kansas yeah kansas can't 308 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:10,160 well 309 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:17,839 many people know this and i'm gonna 310 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:19,600 break ted didn't like to speak about a 311 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:20,800 lot of this 312 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:23,360 but through allen ted was actually 313 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:25,120 sending cases worldwide 314 00:12:28,629 --> 00:12:26,720 and i think you probably know a couple 315 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:28,639 of them but uh 316 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:31,680 ted went to vietnam 317 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:35,040 he went to africa he went to germany 318 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:38,480 he went to russia and uh whenever alan 319 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:42,160 was in bad health or had prior 320 00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:45,920 obligations he sent ted out there so 321 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:48,079 a lot of this material isn't known what 322 00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:49,360 ted took part in 323 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:52,480 and and that's part of what brought him 324 00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:53,440 into marley 325 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:56,959 um there's a connection there and 326 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,320 now this is going to be i'm going to 327 00:13:01,910 --> 00:13:00,240 take you to vietnam but 328 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:01,920 uh you'd never believe there's a 329 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,839 connection between vietnam and marley 330 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:04,959 woods 331 00:13:09,829 --> 00:13:08,480 but there is and uh there were things 332 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:09,839 that he took part of in 333 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:11,920 in investigations there that when he 334 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:13,920 heard about some of the 335 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:16,959 the factors that marley that 336 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:19,360 really bothered ted because it the case 337 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:20,160 he worked at 338 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:21,760 there didn't turn out well for the 339 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:23,200 people 340 00:13:26,629 --> 00:13:25,680 and then marley it had a turn at times 341 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:26,639 for the worst 342 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:28,079 and that's a little bit about what i 343 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,680 want to speak to you about tonight about 344 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:30,959 the ill effects 345 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:35,040 on on animal and 346 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,279 and i will say tonight the investigators 347 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:39,040 that were out there ted included 348 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,470 and and what exactly it did happen in 349 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:50,560 vietnam though could you just give us a 350 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:54,000 a minute or so on information on that 351 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:56,480 i'll give you just a very brief synopsis 352 00:14:00,870 --> 00:13:58,480 of that 353 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:00,880 he was called in on a case and uh of 354 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:02,800 course ted wasn't in the military 355 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:06,480 but he went in they had uh three 356 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,959 three choppers went in on a mountain 357 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:10,240 plateau 358 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:13,040 and and this was behind at the time the 359 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:14,560 war was going on 360 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:16,800 and behind enemy lines on a plateau 361 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:17,600 where 362 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:20,480 intelligence had been told of an account 363 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:21,199 that happened 364 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:24,320 a big event and basically they walked 365 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:26,000 into a mountaintop village 366 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:30,079 that had been leveled to the ground by 367 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:33,440 by light bulbs and unseen force 368 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:38,240 and there was a history in this area of 369 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:41,519 strange enough strange animals strange 370 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:43,760 kryptides uh 371 00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:47,120 unseen force light balls and actually 372 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:50,240 structured craft landings so when ted 373 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:52,560 was brought into this he had four hours 374 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:55,360 with other people that were there 375 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:56,079 virtually 376 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:57,760 through the interpreters they got the 377 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:00,079 story out that 378 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:02,399 these natives then and you got to 379 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,519 realize in that part 380 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:05,760 of vietnam that's almost so primitive 381 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:07,440 you know it's stone age almost 382 00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:10,880 and uh yeah they they actually found out 383 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,680 that they had been in communication with 384 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:15,360 with some of the structured crafted 385 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:16,880 landed and 386 00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:19,680 one thing led to another and there 387 00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:26,069 the structured craft actually had 388 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,959 an outing with these people and for 389 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:30,720 whatever reason 390 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:33,120 and they left and then the light balls 391 00:15:39,269 --> 00:15:34,079 came in 392 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:39,279 with an unseen force leveled the village 393 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:40,880 he radiated the people 394 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:42,959 there were only a few left alive there 395 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:45,440 were severe radiation burns 396 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:48,720 and the the key thing you want to listen 397 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,160 to here that what he 398 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:52,160 taught into this when he was called into 399 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,440 marley 400 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:55,839 and this is a connection that not many 401 00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:57,759 people know of 402 00:16:01,269 --> 00:16:00,880 that the red light balls are the ones 403 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:01,279 that 404 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:04,800 energy and do 405 00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:07,199 usually they're not they don't have good 406 00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:08,720 intentions 407 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:11,759 so when ted was brought into marley 408 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:14,800 the similarities the unseen force when 409 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:17,519 they started telling the property owners 410 00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:19,920 the white light balls the unseen force 411 00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:21,759 the cattle mutilation strange 412 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:26,480 animals vortexes 413 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:29,360 it just it it really concerned ted and 414 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,360 that's why he ended up 415 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:33,519 many people have asked why did ted spend 416 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:34,720 virtually 417 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:38,160 the rest of his life at marley woods and 418 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:40,720 that is the connection he always 419 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:42,800 suspected that there would be 420 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:46,079 a let's just say it would 421 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:50,399 get into a more violent possibly 422 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:53,440 time at marley and it 423 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:56,560 it never did get to that degree 424 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:58,959 but i will tell you that and i believe i 425 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,040 covered the harshborn incident the last 426 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:03,120 time i was on your show 427 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:05,760 now when did when did the uh the actual 428 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:06,400 uh 429 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,120 still 430 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:15,280 uh pretty private it's it's secret ted 431 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:17,439 kept it to himself so that the 432 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:20,319 uh people who who live there uh wouldn't 433 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:20,640 be 434 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,679 harassed or overwhelmed i would say 435 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:25,280 overwhelmed more than likely 436 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:28,720 by uh other ufo uh researchers but 437 00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:31,360 when did he first hear of of this and 438 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,160 under what circumstances 439 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,200 uh ted was the property owners were 440 00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:39,200 looking for answers and they contacted 441 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:40,640 the only one they could find 442 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:44,000 was the mutual ufo network which at that 443 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:46,400 time was based in missouri 444 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:49,919 and you know there the 445 00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:53,200 state director bruce whitaman took the 446 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:53,840 report 447 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,200 and actually keyed ted into it and if 448 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:59,679 their initial reports didn't interest 449 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:00,960 ted too much 450 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,520 until he read the details and talked to 451 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,960 one of the property owners and they 452 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:06,720 started discussing 453 00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:09,679 all the the light balls and again when 454 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,559 they mentioned 455 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:12,640 some of the red light balls the unseen 456 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:14,000 force again 457 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:17,360 things that ted had confronted and seen 458 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:20,799 just how detrimental they could be 459 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:23,600 ted really got in you know interested in 460 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,000 this 461 00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,720 and i i might add that you know marley 462 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:28,640 is two ranches that each one 463 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:32,000 is around 1200 acres and it 464 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,480 encompasses an area of two miles east 465 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:36,640 and west and about three miles north and 466 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:37,679 south 467 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,640 so you're talking about a considerable 468 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:44,400 amount of real estate that we had to 469 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:51,110 and what were uh what were the the first 470 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:52,400 observations that 471 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:54,880 ted uh became aware of i mean actually 472 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,160 participated in 473 00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:58,080 and have they grown in intensity would 474 00:19:03,430 --> 00:18:59,679 you say 475 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:03,440 yes yes they have and uh the the first 476 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:06,480 instance that ted had seen was a 477 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,400 was the white light balls during the 478 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:10,480 daytime observation 479 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:13,600 which are more rare than the most of the 480 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,440 night observations that are done 481 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,919 and that was the incident when the first 482 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,520 time when ted was there with one of the 483 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:23,520 property owners they were there and 484 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,160 ted was standing with him out in the in 485 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,000 the field and 486 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,600 ted asked the property owner he said 487 00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:31,520 well when does this stuff start 488 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:34,160 and the property owner looks over at the 489 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:36,240 one field in the north mystery lights 490 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,280 and 491 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,520 he tells ted well ted there they are 492 00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:41,039 they're starting right now 493 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:44,080 and they both and like ted always just 494 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,760 you know he always said if there'd been 495 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,200 a silver 496 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:48,960 silver disc with little guys crawling 497 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,799 around on top of it i'd been prepared 498 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:52,160 for that but 499 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,440 he said these light bulbs came out and 500 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,679 with such intensity and what he 501 00:20:02,390 --> 00:19:59,200 described him 502 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,400 as almost coming out of a portal 503 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:04,480 and he said i stood there he said i'm 504 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:05,760 ashamed to 505 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,480 admit it but i stood there with my 506 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,960 camera he had a video camera and 507 00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:13,200 a pretty primitive one that was the 508 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,799 state of the art back then but compared 509 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:16,240 to what we have now 510 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,280 and the property owner told teddy said 511 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,120 he said well ted i'm not an expert at 512 00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:23,679 this but shouldn't you have the camera 513 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:27,919 up and ted got about 514 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,000 30 seconds he realized that he had it 515 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:32,400 down and he was so amazed at this thing 516 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:36,320 he got about 30 seconds of image of this 517 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,000 the light bulbs moving across and uh 518 00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:42,400 and you know we interacted we with these 519 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:43,679 things out there 520 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,200 and uh you know fortunately 521 00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:49,120 we never dealt too much with the with 522 00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,240 the red we 523 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:53,360 dealt with the white yellow sometimes 524 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:54,480 green 525 00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,600 and then we dealt with what we called in 526 00:21:06,149 --> 00:20:59,360 the 527 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,159 light beam phenomena and 528 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,720 that's also something that can be really 529 00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:10,559 pretty detrimental to people too at 530 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:16,390 and in what in what respects 531 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:20,000 well i will tell you that i was involved 532 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:20,400 in 533 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,840 site three on a on a long night of 534 00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:33,440 observation out there didn't see 535 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,159 anything 536 00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,960 and that's this stuff reads there's an 537 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,880 intelligence behind it that reads your 538 00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,760 weakness 539 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:42,000 and uh when you're least prepared for it 540 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:43,280 it'll hit 541 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,320 and we were coming on on a private road 542 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:48,880 about three miles long dirt that went 543 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,360 into 544 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,400 gravel no way in or out but through a 545 00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:53,280 locked gate 546 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,200 and we were about halfway out and 547 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,440 the best way i can describe it i hate to 548 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:00,799 draw an analogy to 549 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,919 close encounters but this light beam 550 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,400 came on came up the road behind us i 551 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,159 seen in my rear-view mirror 552 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:10,320 it came on our vehicle illuminated the 553 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,360 vehicle to an 554 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:13,200 intensity you couldn't even see in the 555 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,400 vehicle 556 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,880 and i looked at ted and i said are you 557 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:18,960 are you seeing this ted 558 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:22,000 ted said well hell yes i'm seeing this 559 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,320 tom 560 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,960 and we both instinctually jumped out of 561 00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:26,480 the vehicle 562 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,640 and as we look up the light beam 563 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,919 retracted 564 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,640 off the vehicle and you could actually 565 00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:34,559 see which is what's so unusual about 566 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:35,840 this you could see that 567 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:39,120 a definite end into the light beam 568 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:42,320 retract into an aperture that 569 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:44,320 the closest way is ted could describe it 570 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:45,520 was like that of an 571 00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:48,240 antique camera the way that twisting 572 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:49,440 motion you know 573 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:52,720 aperture and uh retreat into that and it 574 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:53,440 was just 575 00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:56,720 out and gone and uh 576 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,840 i will tell you that adam johnson is one 577 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,440 of our team members 578 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:03,440 we were out long night monitoring in the 579 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,559 field and 580 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,840 we had a similar experience with a light 581 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,000 beam 582 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,880 and then another individual team member 583 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:12,640 we were in the field he just got some 584 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,280 new 585 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,080 radiation monitoring equipment and he 586 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,240 was showing me the equipment one night 587 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:20,720 while we were out there just getting set 588 00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:21,760 and 589 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,600 told him i said 590 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,200 thomas unfortunately i'm going to have 591 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,960 to interrupt you here let's hold that 592 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,480 thought because we have to go to our 593 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,760 bottom of the hour break 594 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,080 when we come back we will continue our 595 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,640 show about the mysteries of marley woods 596 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,880 right after this welcome back to 597 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:44,880 exploring the bazaar i'm tim schwartz 598 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:47,760 tonight our guest is thomas ferrario 599 00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:51,440 and we're talking about uh the mysteries 600 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,919 at marley woods so now thomas before we 601 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,559 had to 602 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,960 uh so rudely interrupt you for our 603 00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,640 bottom of the hour break you were 604 00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,600 talking about 605 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,880 uh somebody who had a 606 00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,960 radiation detector so go ahead and 607 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:06,799 continue with your thought 608 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:10,159 yeah yeah this gets into an individual 609 00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:11,520 had just got some new 610 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:13,840 equipment to monitor radiation of 611 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:14,880 several 612 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:18,960 just got 613 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,279 done showing me the demonstration mode 614 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,480 of this equipment and 615 00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,960 had put it back on and we were sitting 616 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,120 there waiting talking looking 617 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:30,080 around the area and uh it started going 618 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:31,360 off and i told him i said 619 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:34,159 you you must you must have it back in 620 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,200 that mode again 621 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,799 it's it's going off and he looked he 622 00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:38,159 said no i don't have it in the 623 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:39,840 demonstration mode 624 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,320 he said it's it's for real this time and 625 00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:43,760 it briefly 626 00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:47,039 had some spikes and there again it was 627 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:47,679 in 628 00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,120 the microwave range which is very 629 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,760 that again comes into an area that we 630 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,360 believe most of the damage 631 00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:57,520 and animal mutilations that we've had 632 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:01,279 out there it comes into play with that 633 00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:02,480 in the microwave 634 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,600 radiation and uh but 635 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,760 you know i i must say there was another 636 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:09,919 adam johnson i was speaking about 637 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,039 we were a long night in the cold field 638 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,600 and the light beam which is a phenomena 639 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:17,679 that a lot of the locals and ranchers 640 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:18,000 have 641 00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,679 experienced and uh this thing went 642 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,520 across the seven acre field in the 643 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,720 timber and came 644 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,960 right across the field up into the deer 645 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:29,279 stand where we were in 646 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:32,720 and uh you know and and i was in 647 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:35,840 actually three documented episodes of 648 00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:36,400 this 649 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:40,000 and uh ted was in one and adam was in 650 00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,559 one 651 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:43,600 and the property owners were in a couple 652 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,640 and i i can go into if you 653 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,960 want the some of the effects that this 654 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:50,880 has please do which 655 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:54,240 this hasn't been released before because 656 00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:58,080 ted was very uh open-handed with us you 657 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,480 know 658 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,880 he he always told us whatever we wanted 659 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,159 to do or 660 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:04,960 bring knowledge to light it's up to you 661 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:07,360 but he never felt like the researchers 662 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,799 should be part of the research so we 663 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,480 we took the hint and we didn't speak 664 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,320 about it that much and of course ted 665 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:15,440 didn't like to speak 666 00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:19,360 things that would happen to him you know 667 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,400 but i will tell you that 668 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:25,039 some of the effects just briefly you 669 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,080 know that 670 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,919 after the one evening i know when we got 671 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,200 back ted 672 00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:32,720 really got uh violently ill uh stomach 673 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,840 wise and 674 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,960 threw up i didn't have that 675 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:39,360 reaction at all but in hindsight i 676 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,400 wished i would have 677 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,440 probably it would it affects people 678 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,400 differently 679 00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:47,679 and uh but after about a month 680 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,679 i got home on one one event with a light 681 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,120 beam 682 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,919 and i have picture documentation on my 683 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,760 if anybody's interested 684 00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:00,320 we have a really good you know marley 685 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:01,840 woods research center 686 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:05,120 group page on facebook and 687 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,039 also i use my facebook page as a 688 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,240 more of a website we had to take our 689 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,840 website down 690 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,440 we were working with someone and they 691 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,360 required it and uh 692 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,440 it was really i'm wish we would have 693 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:21,520 never done that but uh 694 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:24,000 but i do have picture documentation of 695 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:25,279 everything that i claim 696 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:28,640 in other documentation and uh 697 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:31,600 basically one thing that i went through 698 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,159 was 699 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,279 i came home after about a month 700 00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:38,320 i had dark brown hair and my hair went 701 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,159 to white to blonde to white at times 702 00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:45,200 and to this day it's still a white 703 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:48,799 at times in blonde um i had a hair 704 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:52,799 color change i had i was treated i had 705 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,159 at one point my hair follicles i you 706 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,000 i couldn't touch my scalp they thought 707 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,080 it was shingles they did 708 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,200 test and it wasn't and they just that i 709 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:04,960 was exposed to 710 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:08,080 some type either radiation or sunburn 711 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:09,520 while it wasn't sunburned 712 00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:12,880 and uh and the other more 713 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,919 thing the worst out of it all that i 714 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,039 experienced was 715 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:20,080 i i had a condition 716 00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:21,440 called i don't know if you've ever heard 717 00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:25,039 of this but a macular cyst 718 00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,360 yes and when you're then i was 719 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,279 a lot younger than i am now and it's 720 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,360 very rare in younger people 721 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:35,840 and they really don't have a reason even 722 00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:38,159 it's just a thing that occurs more with 723 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:41,440 age than young youth 724 00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,720 but i had macular cysts in both eyes 725 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,200 i had my vision started going bad and i 726 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,120 went in and they checked and 727 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:52,000 well they removed my macular system my 728 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:52,880 left eye 729 00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,320 and left it in the right eye because the 730 00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,880 it can the operation can be extremely 731 00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,919 beneficial 732 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,080 you can get a really good response or 733 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,000 you can just about lose 734 00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:07,120 the sight in your eye with the procedure 735 00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,640 that they do to remove macular cyst and 736 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:13,279 then of course on top of that i ended up 737 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,320 with cataracts 738 00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:17,360 on top of that they had to remove 739 00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:21,360 so on my my one trip into the hospital 740 00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,840 in st 741 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,600 louis when they did that where they did 742 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,279 this i asked 743 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:27,279 of course the eye doctors they they'll 744 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:28,559 tell you they don't know what 745 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,679 causes macular cysts and 746 00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,399 there was a young new doctor came in to 747 00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:36,399 check my bandage to see how i was doing 748 00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:37,279 and 749 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,919 i said i just asked him you know i i 750 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:40,960 said what would 751 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,240 what causes this and i'm so thankful 752 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,320 i talked to the young guy because he 753 00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,240 proceeded to tell me 754 00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,000 that he said well the only time i've 755 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:51,679 seen this he said that 756 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,480 we've had in younger people we've had 757 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:56,640 some guys that worked on cell towers 758 00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,520 that were on a cell tower and they they 759 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:01,120 fired the thing up and 760 00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,640 they didn't know the guy was still there 761 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,399 and and 762 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:07,360 they they deemed it as a result of 763 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:10,480 exposure to microwave energy 764 00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:13,840 so you can exactly see where i went with 765 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,990 but i i say this because 766 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,640 uh some of the property owners i feel 767 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:24,960 like i was doing an injustice to bring 768 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:25,360 out 769 00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,880 to people that these things can have 770 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:31,039 side effects and they can be dangerous 771 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,640 you know to go into sites like this uh 772 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,799 and the property owners never smoke 773 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:38,799 spoke much about this 774 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:41,440 and when i relayed to one of the 775 00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,480 property owners 776 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,279 and he said he said well tom i've i've 777 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,760 been to the doctor a couple times i 778 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,399 he had the same thing they call it his 779 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:51,760 doctor called it 780 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,640 told him it was called touchy scalp he 781 00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,799 his head got so inflamed it was like a 782 00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:58,640 sunburn he couldn't touch his head he 783 00:31:05,750 --> 00:30:59,360 got 784 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:05,760 for a period in his in his neck and 785 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,360 even on his arms that 786 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:11,840 were tingling and it took a long time 787 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:12,640 for that to 788 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,320 to finally leave him so 789 00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:18,240 i just wanted to bring that up you know 790 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,159 that these things can be 791 00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,200 have side effects and uh 792 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:24,799 and then when you get into our horse 793 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:27,360 born incident out there you know i 794 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:30,159 i think i've relayed to you in the last 795 00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,440 about the horse that 796 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,080 one rancher lost that we think was due 797 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:36,240 to microwave energy 798 00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,159 uh and that was just a tremendous case 799 00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:41,679 then 800 00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:45,039 so there is a downside to this you know 801 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:48,159 and uh so now uh the 802 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,039 the the property owner that you uh spoke 803 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:52,799 out that had the uh 804 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:55,120 the touchy scalp had uh had he also 805 00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:56,480 experienced the uh 806 00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,919 being struck by the light beams yes yes 807 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,640 and 808 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,600 they you know at times they would be if 809 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:05,039 they wouldn't be in they'd always be in 810 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,640 close proximity 811 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,640 right and these things have been out 812 00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,080 there known by the 813 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,080 individual the ranchers they they seem 814 00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,240 to sweep the fields 815 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,039 and the timber and and as if they're 816 00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:18,960 actually looking for something was their 817 00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:21,039 terminology for this that they're always 818 00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,279 looking at or hunting and uh 819 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,799 but you know it's uh 820 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:31,120 there's no explanation for that you know 821 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,640 and uh 822 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,640 then then microwave energy you know 823 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:36,000 that's 824 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,760 i as i speak about the horse barn uh 825 00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,760 and i can briefly get into that if you 826 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,279 if you want me to touch there 827 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,960 sure go ahead in case you know in case 828 00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,720 our listeners aren't familiar with 829 00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:49,679 that it's not for the squeamish heart so 830 00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:50,240 i'll warn 831 00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:53,519 anybody right now but that involved a 832 00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,720 rancher that had a 833 00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:57,919 uh one of his favorite horses in in a 834 00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:01,200 nice horse barn in corelli and he went 835 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:01,919 to chuck the 836 00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,440 run the fence line one morning and 837 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,919 he one step brought it some sugar went 838 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,760 in check the horse and 839 00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:11,600 ran the fence line and this was all 840 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,240 within sight of this barn 841 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,960 and uh he ran the fence line for about 842 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:18,640 30 minutes and 843 00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:22,000 on his way back he came by the the barn 844 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:23,840 he noticed that one of the gates on the 845 00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:25,919 barn was a jar 846 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,399 and he thought well that's not right so 847 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:30,000 he went in to see if his horse 848 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,159 had broken out or what had happened 849 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:37,039 so as he gets in the in the barn he 850 00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:38,720 describes it 851 00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:41,919 as just basically is a slaughterhouse 852 00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:42,799 that 853 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:45,279 what had been a perfectly perfectly good 854 00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:46,640 healthy horse 855 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:50,000 30 minutes had passed 856 00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,640 this horse virtually it went from that 857 00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:53,919 to being in 858 00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,120 in pieces and chunks on the 859 00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:59,919 upper rafters on the on the side gates 860 00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:00,559 on 861 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:03,360 every wall in the barn and and blood 862 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,000 just 863 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:07,519 all like this horse exploded in there 864 00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,720 and uh but he he had heard he had heard 865 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:12,240 nothing 866 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,480 didn't see anything and 867 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,639 the unfortunate thing was we weren't out 868 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:20,079 there at the time and it 869 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,240 it was about six weeks had passed 870 00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,480 before we got out there and when we got 871 00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:28,399 out there we did take sampling 872 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,679 and we did not find anything 873 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:34,560 you know uh but that's the the thing 874 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,280 about 875 00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:38,000 microwave radiation is it leaves no 876 00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,440 tracey 877 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,839 uh it's same as if you put a stake in a 878 00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,960 microwave oven 879 00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,200 you're you're irradiating it but you're 880 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:46,879 not gonna find radiation 881 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:50,480 right so basically we thought this thing 882 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,200 and from what ted had seen before it was 883 00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:55,119 like you put this horse in a microwave 884 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:55,839 oven 885 00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:00,240 and it exploded and uh 886 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:01,920 you know he ended up burning the barn 887 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:03,520 down he didn't want any part of it 888 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:04,320 anymore 889 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,320 so uh but that goes on 890 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,520 you know and uh and one of the things 891 00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:14,079 ted was always afraid of with the red 892 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,839 light balls that 893 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,640 this might end up into a case like he 894 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:19,920 had witnessed 895 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,200 in other parts of the world and uh 896 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,200 and that's why ted was preoccupied with 897 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,200 marley woods the rest of his life 898 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:30,400 and uh so 899 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,920 so i i know that this would just be 900 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:34,960 speculation 901 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,160 on your part uh but uh 902 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,800 and i suppose ted's as well but i mean 903 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,160 do you feel 904 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:45,359 that whatever is behind this you know 905 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:45,760 the 906 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,760 beams 907 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,160 the the microwave radiation do you think 908 00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:54,160 this is 909 00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,160 a deliberate aggressive action 910 00:36:01,589 --> 00:36:00,960 or more along the lines of you know 911 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:01,599 people 912 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:04,800 by a honeybee is 913 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:07,200 an aggressive action but it's you know 914 00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:08,240 it's it's not 915 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,520 necessarily i mean so i mean what do you 916 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:12,720 think 917 00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,000 you know we we really 918 00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:18,560 it we do know there's an intelligence 919 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,599 behind this stuff 920 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,480 and we don't know if it was an artifact 921 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:24,000 of a technology 922 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,750 we really don't know we don't think it 923 00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:33,119 was intentional 924 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,640 uh but at times there were intentional 925 00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:37,680 things done 926 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:40,400 and the one thing i will say that you 927 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:40,880 know 928 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:44,160 uh jacques villa spent time with us out 929 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:45,520 at marley 930 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,119 and he even dean marley had more more 931 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:51,599 potential high strangeness than even 932 00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,440 skinwalker ranch and uh 933 00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,079 it just at times it these things would 934 00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,720 happen out there and i mean 935 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,960 it's just in the cattle mutilations out 936 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,800 there that had taken place 937 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:07,280 at times uh the the worst cattle 938 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:08,240 mutilation 939 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:11,839 period had happened before ted had got 940 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,720 to be part of marley and we did have a 941 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:16,480 couple when we were there 942 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,839 and when we investigated it the rancher 943 00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,599 ted asked you know well have you had 944 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,680 much of this over the years 945 00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,640 and the rancher said ted come with me 946 00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:28,400 and we walked behind the barn 947 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:32,640 and he showed ted a a pile of bones 948 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,320 that was probably 16 949 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:39,680 foot in diameter on the ground and 950 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:43,599 10 foot high and he blamed all that on 951 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,280 on mutilation and uh 952 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,599 you know he he'd go out and check on a 953 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,400 calf 954 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:52,160 at in the evening and that everything 955 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,520 would be fine 956 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:56,240 he'd come back in the morning and he'd 957 00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:56,800 find 958 00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,760 the bleached bones of the calf on the 959 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,359 ground 960 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,839 and uh you know what can do that in that 961 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:04,800 time frame 962 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,160 it's just yeah that 963 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:11,200 nothing uh uh natural that i can think 964 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:12,079 of no 965 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,280 no and no predation you know nothing the 966 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,640 true 967 00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,320 cattle mutilations you'll find that 968 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:20,800 predation doesn't take place 969 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,240 insect wise or you know varmints they 970 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,079 they tend to shy this stuff for whatever 971 00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:28,400 reason and and we've not been able to 972 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:30,000 find out what element 973 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,839 does this that keeps this from happening 974 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,200 you know we had we had agroglyphs which 975 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,680 most people are used to the term crop 976 00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:41,680 circles which ted didn't like to use 977 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,480 because 978 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,160 he was from the old school when they'd 979 00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,000 associate him with a with 980 00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,359 a disc they would be a saucer nest 981 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:52,560 or an aggro glyph would be put down by 982 00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:53,599 these things 983 00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:57,119 and uh you know we had one laid down 984 00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,200 in a in a 15 foot cattle run 985 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:03,839 and just had a few feet on the one end 986 00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,560 of the ring 987 00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,119 the agroglyph on the ground which people 988 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:08,720 call crop circle 989 00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:12,240 and they moved after a year they moved 990 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,680 120 head of cattle through that run 991 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,760 and you know that those the cattle would 992 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,440 go single file 993 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,599 a year later where that agroglyph had 994 00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,359 been laid down they would not step 995 00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,480 one foot or hoof in that ring 996 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,560 where it had been which was always 997 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:29,760 stayed brown 998 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:33,359 no foliage would grow in it and 999 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,680 actually they'd in one case they broke 1000 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:37,359 brand new fencing 1001 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:40,800 rather than step in that so 1002 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,000 you know we we soil sampled it and 1003 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:47,359 uh the only thing it tends to be 1004 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,560 sometimes 1005 00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,599 you'll find that the egg the depending 1006 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,880 on what if it's 1007 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,880 if it's just grass or alfalfa or 1008 00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,960 whatever it's 1009 00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:59,359 the soil underneath it sometimes tends 1010 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,079 to be 1011 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,920 hydrophobic which means it resists water 1012 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,760 penetration 1013 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,640 and ted had taken samples of the soil 1014 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:09,599 and 1015 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:12,960 he had samples probably he had some 1016 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,000 over the years 30 another incidents 30 1017 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,520 years old 1018 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:20,160 and they were just as much hydrophobic 1019 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:21,040 as the day he 1020 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,880 took the samples so 1021 00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,280 sounds very similar to the uh uh what 1022 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:29,280 was that the delphos kansas 1023 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:33,280 case yes that was a ring that was put 1024 00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:33,920 down 1025 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,359 and uh you know it ted took 1026 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:40,240 he took almost 30 pounds of soil samples 1027 00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,040 and 1028 00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,440 got that through a couple labs that alan 1029 00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,200 heineck had worked 1030 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,520 and started getting some interesting 1031 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,520 results with him and then as so often 1032 00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:50,480 happens 1033 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,680 and happened with alan in the end uh 1034 00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,760 the labs people they were working with 1035 00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,880 would be 1036 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,760 replaced and the labs would either lose 1037 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:00,720 the material or 1038 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,119 they would no longer work with ted so 1039 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,960 yeah that's heard that story before 1040 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:10,160 right any any any chance of one of these 1041 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:11,040 uh 1042 00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,800 loose money and have done some fairly 1043 00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,160 good job of 1044 00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,240 uh tracking down some older stories of 1045 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,319 getting involved 1046 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:25,119 well i can tell you that over the last 1047 00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:25,760 year i've 1048 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:29,520 i've been working with four individuals 1049 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:32,720 and one of them is 1050 00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:35,920 really determined to do something and 1051 00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,480 and you know in the past we we had shot 1052 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,839 on the ufo 1053 00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:41,440 hunter show that used to be on we worked 1054 00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,880 with bill burns you know 1055 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:45,119 yeah yeah i've seen the uh the uh the 1056 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,240 one on there 1057 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,240 uh this one program with this one 1058 00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,920 program with ben hansen 1059 00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,400 a ufo witness i've i've seen the the 1060 00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:54,319 first three episodes because it's on 1061 00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:54,880 their 1062 00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:58,560 discover uh plus uh network and 1063 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,680 that that's very good they had this gal 1064 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,240 who was in her 90s uh retired from a 1065 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,760 project the blue book 1066 00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,160 who had some of the original uh tape 1067 00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:10,000 recordings like with the 1068 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:14,319 pilot uh coin or the helicopter pilot 1069 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:14,880 and 1070 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:20,480 were very impressive 1071 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,680 right and uh you know it's 1072 00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,760 you know it's we're working with people 1073 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,880 yet to this day 1074 00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:28,480 and the problem with a couple of them 1075 00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:29,839 they want to get in there and start 1076 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:31,920 doing things immediately and i had to 1077 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:35,040 had to take ted's place and the the 1078 00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,079 property owners 1079 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,640 i i respect them so much they gave me 1080 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:40,720 the authority to do whatever i want out 1081 00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,200 there 1082 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,280 and to take over ted three and they 1083 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,960 renamed their ranches the 1084 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,960 ted phillips marley woods research 1085 00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:49,839 center and put signs up out there on it 1086 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,960 so they couldn't be better people to 1087 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,920 work with 1088 00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,400 the only problem is with this virus 1089 00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,599 they're up in age 1090 00:43:01,109 --> 00:43:00,160 they have no boys and they don't want 1091 00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,119 any they'll let 1092 00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,880 they want me in there anytime i want but 1093 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:04,319 they don't want a lot of people in there 1094 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,960 right now 1095 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,280 for their own health reasons i can 1096 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,119 surely understand that 1097 00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,400 i won't betray that with them you know 1098 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:15,200 and uh but if it not been for this virus 1099 00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:16,480 i think 1100 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,839 you probably see right now we'd be into 1101 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,800 four episodes of some sort and then 1102 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,200 there was talk we're working with 1103 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,680 and at this the time frame we're in 1104 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:29,839 there was one individual wanted to 1105 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,880 we wanted to do this in a movie farm and 1106 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,200 uh you know douglas trumbull was even 1107 00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:36,640 out there i know you're familiar with 1108 00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:37,119 him 1109 00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:39,200 oh yes yes i know he's got some really 1110 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:40,240 good 1111 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,599 camera equipment did he take any video 1112 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:45,599 uh he was out there with us spend time 1113 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:48,640 with us he was a friend of ted's again 1114 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,560 and uh we wanted to proceed with things 1115 00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,520 and you know it just never it never 1116 00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:56,720 gelled right then 1117 00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,000 and uh but he even thought that 1118 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,119 his his exact words was that this 1119 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,119 could be a movie the second version of 1120 00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,280 close encounters he thought 1121 00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,359 to get the activity to bring out what 1122 00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:11,520 the activity has morphed into now 1123 00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,560 rather than the structured craft 1124 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,119 you know when our technologies advanced 1125 00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,359 they lowered their risk factors 1126 00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,839 and they went into the the light bulb 1127 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,200 type of rov 1128 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:29,030 now we're running close on time here 1129 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,160 what is the la uh 1130 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,160 uh you say that you've been uh uh out 1131 00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:33,599 there a few times recently 1132 00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,560 what is the latest uh the sightings and 1133 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,319 what does it consist of 1134 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,319 well i'll tell you what i was on the 1135 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,880 phone last night three times with one of 1136 00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,520 the property owners 1137 00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:48,560 they had one of the largest white light 1138 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,119 ball 1139 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,040 sightings that this ever been known out 1140 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,200 there they thought it was the moon 1141 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,359 and they got out there and because of 1142 00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:57,599 their age of course they can't 1143 00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,800 they have a couple side by sides but in 1144 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,319 the dark and that they didn't want to 1145 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:04,960 but they have seen the largest white 1146 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,599 light ball activity that they've ever 1147 00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,240 been known 1148 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,960 at marley and here lately it's just been 1149 00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:13,040 going crazy out there of course it peaks 1150 00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:14,319 usually 1151 00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:18,160 in january february march is the peak 1152 00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:21,680 three months and i will tell you those 1153 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:23,920 involved in paranormal that the 1154 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:26,960 the bewitching hour is not midnight 1155 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,160 it tends to be 3 a.m 1156 00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,359 the hours we worked yeah all right tim 1157 00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,640 we've got about two minutes left on the 1158 00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,319 program here 1159 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,720 okay well again why don't you repeat 1160 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,720 where uh the listeners can get in touch 1161 00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:41,920 with you 1162 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,800 yeah uh my facebook page you can get it 1163 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,800 under my name tom ferrario 1164 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,440 or the mollywoods research center group 1165 00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,480 page 1166 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,640 we have members we take on members any 1167 00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:54,720 the latest information 1168 00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,720 i will post on that page and uh 1169 00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,960 you can follow us on that and keep up 1170 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,560 with what's going on 1171 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,720 and you'll see a lot of the photos and 1172 00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,200 the documentation on that post 1173 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,880 well maybe maybe we'll get maybe we'll 1174 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,560 get your permission we can 1175 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,640 include some of that in the youtube 1176 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,000 version of this which 1177 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,000 uh we'll get up there as soon as 1178 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,280 possible we won't 1179 00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:20,880 uh we'll put this up yeah uh right away 1180 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,720 as opposed to putting it in order 1181 00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:24,480 because there were months behind but 1182 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,240 we'll do it right away yeah 1183 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:28,160 if there's any millionaires out there 1184 00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,440 i'll just say that we're 1185 00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,920 trying to set up a cellular trail camera 1186 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,119 network 1187 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,200 and it's extremely expensive so if 1188 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,640 there's any millionaires out there that 1189 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:37,760 want to help with this we're 1190 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,480 glad to take it well are you are you in 1191 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,240 touch with chris o'brien because they 1192 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:44,079 have a network of cameras 1193 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:47,520 yeah chris has offered to work with us 1194 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,000 on that 1195 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,319 similar cam what we're trying to do one 1196 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,720 of ted's goals was to have this 1197 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,200 uh cellular trail camera outfit out 1198 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,520 there and run it through sat phones that 1199 00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,760 we we want to have a network of to start 1200 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:00,720 with 15 1201 00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,520 so we can view this from home the 1202 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:04,560 silence group 1203 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,480 uh don't forget the 1204 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,440 mr ufo secret files on youtube and the 1205 00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,680 very soon to be a release the 1206 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,720 alien lives matter it's okay to be 1207 00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:19,119 gray and good night everyone and god 1208 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,870 well 1209 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:27,040 you've been listening to exploring the 1210 00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,319 bazaar 1211 00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:31,040 with hosts timothy beckley and kim 1212 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,640 schwartz 1213 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,720 they're taking back the night by jetting 1214 00:47:39,109 --> 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